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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:12 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Compliance Buyouts, Thursday Quick Hits
edmac812
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dry Island, PA
Joined: 12.31.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:18 AM ET
yep
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 6 @ 11:21 AM ET


kinda funny you had to address the pronger/briere questions yet again...

bet it's not the last time either
edmac812
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dry Island, PA
Joined: 12.31.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
I dont see how the flyers can really do much of anything to upgrade the blue line this year. Maybe our best hope is the development of these younger players. Gustaffson seemed to get better as the year went on whereas he was brutal initially.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
Bill

What is your personal feel on whether or not the Flyers use the CBO on Bryzgalov as well? Especially during this off season.

I'm not asking so much on what you think they should do, though that would be welcome. I am asking more what you think the Flyers will do.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Compliance Buyouts, Thursday Quick Hits
- bmeltzer



Bill, I'm not sure if the Isles' parking Tim Thomas' cap-hit on the books, or a team dealing for Pronger in his final years to take advantage of the cap-salary difference is any less blatant of a circumvention/violation of the spirit of the past and current CBAs than doing that double-CBO swap scenario you mentioned.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 6 @ 11:29 AM ET
Bill

What is your personal feel on whether or not the Flyers use the CBO on Bryzgalov as well? Especially during this off season.

I'm not asking so much on what you think they should do, though that would be welcome. I am asking more what you think the Flyers will do.

- MBFlyerfan



i don't mind bryz, but i worry if they don't buy him out this summer.... what if he's injured next summer and they can't use it? the recapture thing scares me.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 6 @ 11:29 AM ET
kinda funny you had to address the pronger/briere questions yet again...

bet it's not the last time either

- Don'tForgetTocchet



I think we should just buy out Briere and then sign him to a cheaper deal.




Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 6 @ 11:31 AM ET
I haven't watch any of the playoffs until 2 nights ago and last night and I must say that it seems to me the Flyers are light years behind the Bruins, Kings, and Hawks. From strategy to execution, to overall swagger, the Flyers would not stand a chance against these 3 teams.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 6 @ 11:33 AM ET
I haven't watch any of the playoffs until 2 nights ago and last night and I must say that it seems to me the Flyers are light years behind the Bruins, Kings, and Hawks. From strategy to execution, to overall swagger, the Flyers would not stand a chance against these 3 teams.
- Jimmygrazz



Yes, but we always stand a chance against the Penguins, so at least there is a silver lining to your little cloud of doom.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 6 @ 11:35 AM ET
Yes, but we always stand a chance against the Penguins, so at least there is a silver lining to your little cloud of doom.
- Doc_Sarcasm


You can't win a cup beating the Penguins. They don't scare me at all. Once you get them off their game they are vulnerable.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
I dont see how the flyers can really do much of anything to upgrade the blue line this year. Maybe our best hope is the development of these younger players. Gustaffson seemed to get better as the year went on whereas he was brutal initially.
- edmac812


I think Gus has more than proven himself for the 6th spot. But I think the best thing our Blueline can do is get healthy. A healthy Kimmo, Meszaros & Gus make a pretty good set of puckmovers.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 11:37 AM ET
I think we should just buy out Briere and then sign him to a cheaper deal.





- Doc_Sarcasm


How bout just scratching him until the playoffs?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 11:38 AM ET
You can't win a cup beating the Penguins. They don't scare me at all. Once you get them off their game they are vulnerable.
- Jimmygrazz


What a bunch of mutts
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
I haven't watch any of the playoffs until 2 nights ago and last night and I must say that it seems to me the Flyers are light years behind the Bruins, Kings, and Hawks. From strategy to execution, to overall swagger, the Flyers would not stand a chance against these 3 teams.
- Jimmygrazz


Your right that there is a significant gap
Even though everything else about the bruins is annoying I love how the team goes about its business
Pyzik
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Flemington, NJ
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 6 @ 11:42 AM ET
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


edmac812
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dry Island, PA
Joined: 12.31.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:46 AM ET
I think Gus has more than proven himself for the 6th spot. But I think the best thing our Blueline can do is get healthy. A healthy Kimmo, Meszaros & Gus make a pretty good set of puckmovers.
- flyler


Agreed. I think I am of the mindset that it may be time to let a couple of these young guys develop and MEzaros isn't old. As opposed to what is available as free agent D like Andrew Alberts? No, Id rather not.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 6 @ 11:46 AM ET
After the Bruins hammered the Flyers in 2011, we saw sweeping changes to the team.

I wonder if big changes are in store for the Penguins?

MAF, Byalsma I think are at risk of leaving.
Iginla likely won't be back.

Anything else possible?

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
I haven't watch any of the playoffs until 2 nights ago and last night and I must say that it seems to me the Flyers are light years behind the Bruins, Kings, and Hawks. From strategy to execution, to overall swagger, the Flyers would not stand a chance against these 3 teams.
- Jimmygrazz



mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:48 AM ET
Remember when people were thoughtful enough to post in the old thread "New blog up!"

This world is going to hell.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 6 @ 11:48 AM ET
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


- Pyzik



I just hope Roo wasnt the one teaching Fucale how to handle the puck outside the crease.
allen_gamble
Joined: 04.05.2012

Jun 6 @ 11:50 AM ET
Too bad the NHL wouldnt make an exception for pronger, savard type cases and let the teams buyout the player at full rate as they will never be playing hockey again so the teams could just move forward.
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jun 6 @ 11:50 AM ET
I'm fine sticking with the defense that is there for next year, but long term looks a little scary. Even drafting a good young puck mover will take a few years to benefit from. Stop-gaps might have to be the answer for the next little while.

On a draft related note (I'm sure this has been beaten to death... sorry), what would it take to get the 14th and 27th (or even 19th) picks from Columbus? Our 1st + ??

I think Poluck might still be around at 14, plus Fucale might even still be on the board in the late first...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
After the Bruins hammered the Flyers in 2011, we saw sweeping changes to the team.

I wonder if big changes are in store for the Penguins?

MAF, Byalsma I think are at risk of leaving.
Iginla likely won't be back.

Anything else possible?

- Marc D

It wouldn't surprise me if they let Cooke walk.

I'm wondering how many of Iginla, Morrow and Murray they decide to bring back. I'd resign Morrow but the rest could find new homes as they see fit.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 6 @ 11:55 AM ET
i don't mind bryz, but i worry if theybuy him out this summer.... what if he's injured next summer and they can't use it? the recapture thing scares me.
- Don'tForgetTocchet


What scares me more is them betting to hard on Mason to carry this team. He's still a little fragile mentally. The only move that makes sense to me with letting Bryz go now is for Homer to sign Backstrom to a deal for 2-4 years under what Bryz is making. But I'd be loathe to sign a less talented or proven netminder or to take on another contract like Bryz's. Right now we have an out, and if Mason can shoulder the load, we'd know more by the end of next season, and also about whether Bryz CAN live upto his deal. But if we Buyout Bryz and inherit say Luongo's deal and he doesn't pan out either we are now stuck with a goalie contract we CAN'T get rid of. Either way it is measured and deliberate moves that Homer needs to make.
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